Hero Condition Removal - Guild Wars Forums

Sir Tidus · Aug 25, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

If a hero has a condition removal equipped, then will he take priority in removing condition from himself over other members of the party? Or will he and all other members of the party get the same priority? Thanks in advance.

theonetheonlybruce · Aug 25, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

it usually others before the hero at one point and time they would never use it on them selfs anet has since fixed this

Sir Tidus · Aug 25, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27

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Originally Posted by theonetheonlybruce

it usually others before the hero at one point and time they would never use it on them selfs anet has since fixed this

If it's now fixed, then does everyone get the same priority? Or do other party members get more priority? Or does the hero himself get more priority?

the_jos · Aug 25, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Time to test things out.

We have this little PvP island with some npc's applying conditions.
Take 3 heroes including a monk and put the monk so he can heal all.
Put several condition removers on him.
Walk 2 heroes and yourself in the same condition a couple of times, see if there is a priority.
Then do the same thing but walk in different conditions in the same time.

Things to find out.
Does a hero remove daze from a melee without spells? If so, also when a caster is dazed?
Does a hero remove blind from a melee character sooner then from a caster?
Which conditions get the highest priority?

Fun things to try and test and keep you busy for a while

Take a friend and 6 heroes for even more fun and to see if humans get more priority over heroes (for example).

MagmaRed · Aug 25, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

Have not spent time testing it or observing it specifically, but my experience is:

Heroes will remove conditions over healing. This means if you are at 25% health and Blind, they will use a condition removal before using a heal.

Heroes will remove conditions regardless of what class and build you are using. So a caster will have Blind removed even though Blind won't affect them. Melee will have Daze removed even when they use no spells.

Heroes will remove conditions as soon as they are applied. This can be very good, as a Blind warrior may actually hit a target if the Blind is removed before the hit would make contact. However, a W/N trying to Plague Touch will waste energy trying to remove a condition the hero already removed.

Heroes only prioritize condition removal on when the condition is applied. So if an Elem is Blinded before a Warrior, the Warrior will have to wait for the condition removal skill to recharge before it gets removed.

Sir Tidus · Aug 25, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Have not spent time testing it or observing it specifically, but my experience is:

Heroes will remove conditions over healing. This means if you are at 25% health and Blind, they will use a condition removal before using a heal.

Heroes will remove conditions regardless of what class and build you are using. So a caster will have Blind removed even though Blind won't affect them. Melee will have Daze removed even when they use no spells.

Heroes will remove conditions as soon as they are applied. This can be very good, as a Blind warrior may actually hit a target if the Blind is removed before the hit would make contact. However, a W/N trying to Plague Touch will waste energy trying to remove a condition the hero already removed.

Heroes only prioritize condition removal on when the condition is applied. So if an Elem is Blinded before a Warrior, the Warrior will have to wait for the condition removal skill to recharge before it gets removed.

Right, but I'm talking about self preservation. Will a hero put priority on removing a condition from himself over removing a condition from some other member of the party?

MagmaRed · Aug 26, 2008, 01:35 AM // 01:35

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Heroes only prioritize condition removal on when the condition is applied. So if an Elem is Blinded before a Warrior, the Warrior will have to wait for the condition removal skill to recharge before it gets removed.

I already answered that. Although I have not done testing on it, that is based on my observations.

theonetheonlybruce · Aug 26, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by theonetheonlybruce

it usually others before the hero at one point and time they would never use it on them selfs anet has since fixed this

i was referring to the fact they would never use it on selfs but others have priority over self this also depend on the removal skill to certain one they will use on selfs before other mainly [Mending touch] will only be use on selfs unless some thing happens other condition skill that target get used on other 1st

Elder III · Aug 26, 2008, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Based on my experience of going through 4 campaigns with nearly all H/H - I will say that I have noticed and agree with MagmaRed completely.

Thowra Wildfire · Aug 26, 2008, 08:52 AM // 08:52

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus
If a hero has a condition removal equipped, then will he take priority in removing condition from himself over other members of the party? Or will he and all other members of the party get the same priority? Thanks in advance.

My monk heroes appear to target themselves last - at least, it usually seems they're the last ones with a condition/hex/low health, after a fight.
During a fight, not really had time to notice, but what Magma Red says makes sense.

Sir Tidus · Aug 26, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

Thanks a lot everyone.

Aug 25, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11	#1
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Hero Condition Removal If a hero has a condition removal equipped, then will he take priority in removing condition from himself over other members of the party? Or will he and all other members of the party get the same priority? Thanks in advance.

Aug 25, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15	#2
theonetheonlybruce Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Fuzzies Anonymous [Fuzy] Profession: Mo/	it usually others before the hero at one point and time they would never use it on them selfs anet has since fixed this

Aug 25, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47	#4
the_jos Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Hard Mode Legion [HML] Profession: N/	Time to test things out. We have this little PvP island with some npc's applying conditions. Take 3 heroes including a monk and put the monk so he can heal all. Put several condition removers on him. Walk 2 heroes and yourself in the same condition a couple of times, see if there is a priority. Then do the same thing but walk in different conditions in the same time. Things to find out. Does a hero remove daze from a melee without spells? If so, also when a caster is dazed? Does a hero remove blind from a melee character sooner then from a caster? Which conditions get the highest priority? Fun things to try and test and keep you busy for a while Take a friend and 6 heroes for even more fun and to see if humans get more priority over heroes (for example).

Aug 25, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00	#5
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Have not spent time testing it or observing it specifically, but my experience is: Heroes will remove conditions over healing. This means if you are at 25% health and Blind, they will use a condition removal before using a heal. Heroes will remove conditions regardless of what class and build you are using. So a caster will have Blind removed even though Blind won't affect them. Melee will have Daze removed even when they use no spells. Heroes will remove conditions as soon as they are applied. This can be very good, as a Blind warrior may actually hit a target if the Blind is removed before the hit would make contact. However, a W/N trying to Plague Touch will waste energy trying to remove a condition the hero already removed. Heroes only prioritize condition removal on when the condition is applied. So if an Elem is Blinded before a Warrior, the Warrior will have to wait for the condition removal skill to recharge before it gets removed.

Aug 26, 2008, 08:46 AM // 08:46	#9
Elder III Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Guild: I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY) Profession: R/	Based on my experience of going through 4 campaigns with nearly all H/H - I will say that I have noticed and agree with MagmaRed completely.

Aug 26, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35	#11
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Thanks a lot everyone.